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		<title>By: Benjamin Steele</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve been a part of social networks before, but I&#039;m not really all that interested in that kind of thing at the moment.  I&#039;m not really trying to leverage anything.  My motivations are much more modest.  I mostly write for myself, but I like that others who are interested can read it as well.

The problem with search engines isn&#039;t primarily improved technology.  The technology is decent at the moment, but the problem is that search engines treat information as a product.  That is fine as far as it goes... when I&#039;m seeking products.  

Search engines could give people better results with present technology, but they&#039;d have to be willing to be more transparent and give more control to the user.  Unfortunately, that won&#039;t happen.  Even if you improve the technology, the search engine companies wouldn&#039;t want to give up their control.  In fact, new technology will allow companies to give you even more biased results.

You make a good point about search engines not being the only gatekeepers these days.  I&#039;m happy for that.  You can even see some search engines starting to include social network capabilities.  It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if in the future search engines and social networks become more closely intertwined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve been a part of social networks before, but I&#8217;m not really all that interested in that kind of thing at the moment.  I&#8217;m not really trying to leverage anything.  My motivations are much more modest.  I mostly write for myself, but I like that others who are interested can read it as well.</p>
<p>The problem with search engines isn&#8217;t primarily improved technology.  The technology is decent at the moment, but the problem is that search engines treat information as a product.  That is fine as far as it goes&#8230; when I&#8217;m seeking products.  </p>
<p>Search engines could give people better results with present technology, but they&#8217;d have to be willing to be more transparent and give more control to the user.  Unfortunately, that won&#8217;t happen.  Even if you improve the technology, the search engine companies wouldn&#8217;t want to give up their control.  In fact, new technology will allow companies to give you even more biased results.</p>
<p>You make a good point about search engines not being the only gatekeepers these days.  I&#8217;m happy for that.  You can even see some search engines starting to include social network capabilities.  It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if in the future search engines and social networks become more closely intertwined.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Benjamin! Those biases are there and everywhere. It&#039;s true they exists, but in my opinion, it&#039;s due to their own nature. Problem is that they manage such a huge amount of info it&#039;s sometimes impossible to explain why a site is linked there and not another one. I tell u this because I work on a highly trafficked site and it&#039;s very hard to explain certain situations that arose from complex algorithms as emergent behavior.

Nevertheless, with the rise of social networks, regular search engines aren&#039;t the only gatekeepers of the information. So no u can leverage social networks to expose your info :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Benjamin! Those biases are there and everywhere. It&#8217;s true they exists, but in my opinion, it&#8217;s due to their own nature. Problem is that they manage such a huge amount of info it&#8217;s sometimes impossible to explain why a site is linked there and not another one. I tell u this because I work on a highly trafficked site and it&#8217;s very hard to explain certain situations that arose from complex algorithms as emergent behavior.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, with the rise of social networks, regular search engines aren&#8217;t the only gatekeepers of the information. So no u can leverage social networks to expose your info <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Steele</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for improved search engines.  Hook my brain up right away.

However, part of the problem isn&#039;t simply interface or other barriers between humans and computers.  I just blogged about the problem of not being able to find something even when you know exactly what you&#039;re looking for.  

Search engines have various biases of their own that may or may not match the biases of the person doing the search.  I&#039;d like search engines to be more transparent about their biases and to allow more control over how information is being prioritized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for improved search engines.  Hook my brain up right away.</p>
<p>However, part of the problem isn&#8217;t simply interface or other barriers between humans and computers.  I just blogged about the problem of not being able to find something even when you know exactly what you&#8217;re looking for.  </p>
<p>Search engines have various biases of their own that may or may not match the biases of the person doing the search.  I&#8217;d like search engines to be more transparent about their biases and to allow more control over how information is being prioritized.</p>
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		<title>By: Comunidad de Buscaplus</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator>Comunidad de Buscaplus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Discusión interesante sobre buscadores y resumen diario...&lt;/strong&gt;

Hoy Alex Barrera ha escrito un interesante art&#237;culo sobre ideas sobre el futuro de los buscadores . Me ha gustado el tema de Brain Machine Interfaces......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Discusión interesante sobre buscadores y resumen diario&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Hoy Alex Barrera ha escrito un interesante art&iacute;culo sobre ideas sobre el futuro de los buscadores . Me ha gustado el tema de Brain Machine Interfaces&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I would be happy if I didn&#039;t need to think and type the keywords, though ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I would be happy if I didn&#8217;t need to think and type the keywords, though <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, Alex, there is a lot of research to be done in search, advanced methods, etc...

About 70% of search queries are very simple, one or two words, maybe three. So those people will be happy for what Google delivers.

The rest are complex queries, where research could lead to better products. I beleive that search is a kid yet.

Interesting stuff about Brain Machine Interfaces</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, Alex, there is a lot of research to be done in search, advanced methods, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>About 70% of search queries are very simple, one or two words, maybe three. So those people will be happy for what Google delivers.</p>
<p>The rest are complex queries, where research could lead to better products. I beleive that search is a kid yet.</p>
<p>Interesting stuff about Brain Machine Interfaces</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha I knew you were going to make a comment :P

Well, while I do agreee with the KISS concept, I don&#039;t think Google&#039;s search engine is simple at all. Nor their contextual ads or sponsored links. There is a lot of engineering behind that.

The concept? Yeah, very simple and clear. Very simple interface and ease of use. I&#039;m not suggesting that this new idea has to be ugly and complex hehe The point is that, we tend to think about the future as something impossible and very complex. Truth is that we say that because, well, it&#039;s the future and we can&#039;t do it now ;)

On the other hand, one thing is an idea, and a very different thing is the execution. I spell the idea, I leave the execution to much smarter people :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha I knew you were going to make a comment <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, while I do agreee with the KISS concept, I don&#8217;t think Google&#8217;s search engine is simple at all. Nor their contextual ads or sponsored links. There is a lot of engineering behind that.</p>
<p>The concept? Yeah, very simple and clear. Very simple interface and ease of use. I&#8217;m not suggesting that this new idea has to be ugly and complex hehe The point is that, we tend to think about the future as something impossible and very complex. Truth is that we say that because, well, it&#8217;s the future and we can&#8217;t do it now <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the other hand, one thing is an idea, and a very different thing is the execution. I spell the idea, I leave the execution to much smarter people <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next generation search engine is My Search Engine :) :)

ok, ok, I have to be serious becaouse if not Alex may think that I don&#039;t take his posts seriously and be mad at me.

For me, the magic formula is &quot;Keep it simple and stupid&quot;. It worked with Google with link stuff, and will work for the next big thing. Back then at 2002, if you asked researchers, their answers would be natural language, neural networks, etc... 

But it was just as simple as analyziing the way people linked to each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next generation search engine is My Search Engine <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>ok, ok, I have to be serious becaouse if not Alex may think that I don&#8217;t take his posts seriously and be mad at me.</p>
<p>For me, the magic formula is &#8220;Keep it simple and stupid&#8221;. It worked with Google with link stuff, and will work for the next big thing. Back then at 2002, if you asked researchers, their answers would be natural language, neural networks, etc&#8230; </p>
<p>But it was just as simple as analyziing the way people linked to each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

First of all, thanks for the pingback :)

Indeed, it&#039;s a bit into the future, that&#039;s why most people will probably dub it as crazy, but as you say I think it&#039;s going to be a very hot niche in some time.

I believe that if we don&#039;t think about the future we wont move forward. Sometimes we just need to step ahead of everyone else :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>First of all, thanks for the pingback <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Indeed, it&#8217;s a bit into the future, that&#8217;s why most people will probably dub it as crazy, but as you say I think it&#8217;s going to be a very hot niche in some time.</p>
<p>I believe that if we don&#8217;t think about the future we wont move forward. Sometimes we just need to step ahead of everyone else <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Where&#8217;s the Firefox for Search? &#124; Mark Evans</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>Where&#8217;s the Firefox for Search? &#124; Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google will remain dominant. For anyone interested in Firefox 3, you can download it here. As well, Alex Barrera has some interesting thoughts on the future of search that involves the reading of brain [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google will remain dominant. For anyone interested in Firefox 3, you can download it here. As well, Alex Barrera has some interesting thoughts on the future of search that involves the reading of brain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/next-generation-search-engines/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

That&#039;s an interesting approach to search but something that will likely get some more attention one day.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting approach to search but something that will likely get some more attention one day.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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