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		<title>By: Jonás</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/why-forcing-an-entrepreneur-into-a-big-company-is-a-mistake/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonás</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When working for a big company &quot;to gain experience&quot;, you must keep an eye on your creativity... You could risk letting it &quot;die&quot;, or just &quot;fall asleep&quot;.  I&#039;ve seen it with several people already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When working for a big company &#8220;to gain experience&#8221;, you must keep an eye on your creativity&#8230; You could risk letting it &#8220;die&#8221;, or just &#8220;fall asleep&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve seen it with several people already.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, Alex,
  I agree with you totally!!
  Through the web, we, current and future entrepreneurs should form alliance to build new competitiveness across national borders!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, Alex,<br />
  I agree with you totally!!<br />
  Through the web, we, current and future entrepreneurs should form alliance to build new competitiveness across national borders!</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Alegre</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/why-forcing-an-entrepreneur-into-a-big-company-is-a-mistake/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Alegre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

We basicly agree. No need for a corp work to be successful in a startup, but gives you valuable background.

Neither having a MBA, by the way. Many people also told me that, without an MBA I did not have the background to be successfull, and it also totally wrong. A couple months I read an article about an MBA professor (dont remember where I gues an spanish business school) that agreed to this. MBAs are for management people working in companies, but not for entrepeneurs, they need a totally different background: beleive in own&#039;s work, great ideas, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>We basicly agree. No need for a corp work to be successful in a startup, but gives you valuable background.</p>
<p>Neither having a MBA, by the way. Many people also told me that, without an MBA I did not have the background to be successfull, and it also totally wrong. A couple months I read an article about an MBA professor (dont remember where I gues an spanish business school) that agreed to this. MBAs are for management people working in companies, but not for entrepeneurs, they need a totally different background: beleive in own&#8217;s work, great ideas, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  It&#039;s me tropicaljeepney in comment #10.  Actually I&#039;m new around here at WordPress.  I have you in my Sage RSS reader.  You have a very informative blog.  Keep it up! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  It&#8217;s me tropicaljeepney in comment #10.  Actually I&#8217;m new around here at WordPress.  I have you in my Sage RSS reader.  You have a very informative blog.  Keep it up! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jorge,
Thanks for giving you insights! :D

Jorge, I never said that working in a big company doesn&#039;t gives you experience. It does, and pretty valuable in many fields. 

The problem is when people try to make you think that it&#039;s the ONLY experience that is valuable. I would even dare to say that from a technical perspective, you even learn more in a startup (as you have to do everything yourself and you play multiple roles) than in a big company. 

Again, most corporate processes, albeit very useful, can&#039;t be deployed as-is in a startup because it would only slow the process down (among other things), so even though the experience is useful, it&#039;s not a MUST have at first. 

I agree with you though in that you need a good CEO and most founders don&#039;t have the experience nor the qualities to be good CEOs. That&#039;s the point where normally you bring someone from the outside (normally someone related to your VC or business angel) to take the rol.

Many people have told me the same about how not to build a company hehe It&#039;s true that for most people it&#039;s an experience of how certain business processes don&#039;t work at all and are better leaving them alone. Humans always learn from their errors so it&#039;s a good learning. Personally I see more than enough problems from the outside and I&#039;m not willing to sacrifice 2 or 3 years of my creativity just to learn how deep the iceberg goes ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jorge,<br />
Thanks for giving you insights! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jorge, I never said that working in a big company doesn&#8217;t gives you experience. It does, and pretty valuable in many fields. </p>
<p>The problem is when people try to make you think that it&#8217;s the ONLY experience that is valuable. I would even dare to say that from a technical perspective, you even learn more in a startup (as you have to do everything yourself and you play multiple roles) than in a big company. </p>
<p>Again, most corporate processes, albeit very useful, can&#8217;t be deployed as-is in a startup because it would only slow the process down (among other things), so even though the experience is useful, it&#8217;s not a MUST have at first. </p>
<p>I agree with you though in that you need a good CEO and most founders don&#8217;t have the experience nor the qualities to be good CEOs. That&#8217;s the point where normally you bring someone from the outside (normally someone related to your VC or business angel) to take the rol.</p>
<p>Many people have told me the same about how not to build a company hehe It&#8217;s true that for most people it&#8217;s an experience of how certain business processes don&#8217;t work at all and are better leaving them alone. Humans always learn from their errors so it&#8217;s a good learning. Personally I see more than enough problems from the outside and I&#8217;m not willing to sacrifice 2 or 3 years of my creativity just to learn how deep the iceberg goes <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/why-forcing-an-entrepreneur-into-a-big-company-is-a-mistake/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tropicaljeepney you are very lucky indeed! And I wish you very good luck! :D

More people in Europe should encourage collage students to start their own businesses.

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tropicaljeepney you are very lucky indeed! And I wish you very good luck! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>More people in Europe should encourage collage students to start their own businesses.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: tropicaljeepney</title>
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		<dc:creator>tropicaljeepney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  Nice article.

Here in the Philippines the mindset is very much the opposite of what you&#039;re asserting in this entry.  This should give fresh encouragement to aspiring entrepreneurs.  I&#039;ll be graduating from college in less than a year, and a startup is on my list of to-do things. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Nice article.</p>
<p>Here in the Philippines the mindset is very much the opposite of what you&#8217;re asserting in this entry.  This should give fresh encouragement to aspiring entrepreneurs.  I&#8217;ll be graduating from college in less than a year, and a startup is on my list of to-do things. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Alegre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Alegre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the article, when I started my business I allways thought about this.

I agree with you with the fact that working in a corp does not guarantee success in a startup. IN order ro succeed in a startup my recipe is: Lots of Energy, Great ideas and good luck (you know, being at the right place and time).

But working in a corp gives you experience in the fields you work. If working as programmer or analyst (techie guy), gives experience on common systems problems with corporation systems, way to organize a good technology team. If working in sales, I think could bring good sales experience, contacts, etc...

All that experience can later on be great help to succeed not only being the founder of your idea-business, but being the CEO, having experience in sales, tech, etc...

This is the way I see these things. I have a startup and also worked in companies in the last years. Now I want to move to a commercial job (more sales) than the Java thing.

When I was in University in Kansas, my professor during his life worked some years in different departments in Airplane bulding: structures, design, propulsion, etc... He ended up being an expert in everything and taught us to be generalysts instead of spetialists. I believe in this philosophy.

What I belive is certain is: If you have a good idea, just do it. Doing instead of thinking. And the sooner the better.

Also, working in a corp gives you information on how not to build your company. Sometimes it is hard to know how you want to do things, but it is easier to know how you don´t want things done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the article, when I started my business I allways thought about this.</p>
<p>I agree with you with the fact that working in a corp does not guarantee success in a startup. IN order ro succeed in a startup my recipe is: Lots of Energy, Great ideas and good luck (you know, being at the right place and time).</p>
<p>But working in a corp gives you experience in the fields you work. If working as programmer or analyst (techie guy), gives experience on common systems problems with corporation systems, way to organize a good technology team. If working in sales, I think could bring good sales experience, contacts, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>All that experience can later on be great help to succeed not only being the founder of your idea-business, but being the CEO, having experience in sales, tech, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>This is the way I see these things. I have a startup and also worked in companies in the last years. Now I want to move to a commercial job (more sales) than the Java thing.</p>
<p>When I was in University in Kansas, my professor during his life worked some years in different departments in Airplane bulding: structures, design, propulsion, etc&#8230; He ended up being an expert in everything and taught us to be generalysts instead of spetialists. I believe in this philosophy.</p>
<p>What I belive is certain is: If you have a good idea, just do it. Doing instead of thinking. And the sooner the better.</p>
<p>Also, working in a corp gives you information on how not to build your company. Sometimes it is hard to know how you want to do things, but it is easier to know how you don´t want things done.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post! You echo my thoughts entirely and I&#039;m so glad that someone else agrees!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post! You echo my thoughts entirely and I&#8217;m so glad that someone else agrees!</p>
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		<title>By: ameshin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ameshin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm I&#039;m hearing that a lot too. You make some very good points. Thanks for the post it made me think. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm I&#8217;m hearing that a lot too. You make some very good points. Thanks for the post it made me think. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richlowenberg the question is, did you learned loads because you had had a startup and knew the problems you had had or you think you would have learned the same if you had taken the job straight out of collage?

The point is, do you feel you would have been more successful had the story been the other way round?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richlowenberg the question is, did you learned loads because you had had a startup and knew the problems you had had or you think you would have learned the same if you had taken the job straight out of collage?</p>
<p>The point is, do you feel you would have been more successful had the story been the other way round?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, it&#039;s all about what you learn. I never said that going on your own would make you a successful entrepreneur. Actually, chances (big ones) are that you fail. What I wanted to shed some light onto, is the fact that you don&#039;t need to work for a big company to do it. Working on a big company does gives you a lot of experiences, but it&#039;s not (except for rare exceptions) a competitive advantage. 

Learning how business processes work on a large company do help, the problem is that most of the times you wont be able to implement them as-is in a tiny startup. You&#039;ll have to adapt them or even ignore them until you grow a little more at which point you can always hire someone that does have the experience.

As someone once said: &quot;I don&#039;t know everything, but I have the phone number of the one that does&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, it&#8217;s all about what you learn. I never said that going on your own would make you a successful entrepreneur. Actually, chances (big ones) are that you fail. What I wanted to shed some light onto, is the fact that you don&#8217;t need to work for a big company to do it. Working on a big company does gives you a lot of experiences, but it&#8217;s not (except for rare exceptions) a competitive advantage. </p>
<p>Learning how business processes work on a large company do help, the problem is that most of the times you wont be able to implement them as-is in a tiny startup. You&#8217;ll have to adapt them or even ignore them until you grow a little more at which point you can always hire someone that does have the experience.</p>
<p>As someone once said: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know everything, but I have the phone number of the one that does&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: richlowenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>richlowenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started my own web company and ran it for five years before taking an in-house contract at a major bank. I learned loads from being exposed to so many talented people, and now, four years later, I travel ten months a year and work from home wherever I am, because now I have the contacts and skills that I lacked before. In my case, working for big companies has been a huge help, and it&#039;s something I still regularly go back to to keep learning from new people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started my own web company and ran it for five years before taking an in-house contract at a major bank. I learned loads from being exposed to so many talented people, and now, four years later, I travel ten months a year and work from home wherever I am, because now I have the contacts and skills that I lacked before. In my case, working for big companies has been a huge help, and it&#8217;s something I still regularly go back to to keep learning from new people.</p>
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		<title>By: wanless</title>
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		<dc:creator>wanless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a strategic consultant to companies big and small, I agree with you, but with reservations. 
Yes, working for a big company does not guarantee you&#039;ll be a good entrepreneur; but the opposite is also true -- you may get nowhere as an entrepreneur either. 

A larger company setting can teach you about business processes that are needed in a startup. But only if you&#039;re willing to observe, question, and learn.
The entrepreneurial route can do the same, also if you&#039;re willing to  observe, question, fail and learn.
 
I think it&#039;s about what you learn, not where you learn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a strategic consultant to companies big and small, I agree with you, but with reservations.<br />
Yes, working for a big company does not guarantee you&#8217;ll be a good entrepreneur; but the opposite is also true &#8212; you may get nowhere as an entrepreneur either. </p>
<p>A larger company setting can teach you about business processes that are needed in a startup. But only if you&#8217;re willing to observe, question, and learn.<br />
The entrepreneurial route can do the same, also if you&#8217;re willing to  observe, question, fail and learn.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s about what you learn, not where you learn it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ángel Medinilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ángel Medinilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are blowing my mind here. I&#039;ve always been in the &quot;get some true experience before you go entrepreneur&quot; group, but now you are really showing some facts that make my reset my mind and re-evaluate the whole thing... Execelent post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are blowing my mind here. I&#8217;ve always been in the &#8220;get some true experience before you go entrepreneur&#8221; group, but now you are really showing some facts that make my reset my mind and re-evaluate the whole thing&#8230; Execelent post!</p>
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