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		<title>By: Laura Athavale Fitton</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/the-important-people-myth-debunked/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Athavale Fitton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think &quot;fame&quot; is the issue so much as bandwidth. the people who get fussy if a &quot;famous&quot; person doesn&#039;t reply are probably processing a fraction of the email of their &quot;target&quot; and therefore don&#039;t have much empathy.

honestly, i have always feared becoming famous. not because i think it&#039;s at all likely, but merely because i think it would suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think &#8220;fame&#8221; is the issue so much as bandwidth. the people who get fussy if a &#8220;famous&#8221; person doesn&#8217;t reply are probably processing a fraction of the email of their &#8220;target&#8221; and therefore don&#8217;t have much empathy.</p>
<p>honestly, i have always feared becoming famous. not because i think it&#8217;s at all likely, but merely because i think it would suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Byers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Byers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and good topic. 

I&#039;m not famous and I don&#039;t want to be, mostly because I have a few friends that are. They can&#039;t go anywhere without being hounded by epeople that AREN&#039;T afraid to talk with someone famous.

On a book tour, I watched a good buddy grip and grin for hours once. He heard the same story a hundred times, the only detail that was different was the names of the people in the stories.

Wow. That took patience. 

I&#039;ve been writing and speaking on for about a decade now, but now I&#039;m  close to releasing my first book. I don&#039;t expect the attention my friend receives when speaks or does a book signing. 

Nor do I want it. 

Much. 

Happy Marketing.

Patrick Byers
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and good topic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not famous and I don&#8217;t want to be, mostly because I have a few friends that are. They can&#8217;t go anywhere without being hounded by epeople that AREN&#8217;T afraid to talk with someone famous.</p>
<p>On a book tour, I watched a good buddy grip and grin for hours once. He heard the same story a hundred times, the only detail that was different was the names of the people in the stories.</p>
<p>Wow. That took patience. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been writing and speaking on for about a decade now, but now I&#8217;m  close to releasing my first book. I don&#8217;t expect the attention my friend receives when speaks or does a book signing. </p>
<p>Nor do I want it. </p>
<p>Much. </p>
<p>Happy Marketing.</p>
<p>Patrick Byers<br />
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<a href="http://outsourcemarketing.com" rel="nofollow">http://outsourcemarketing.com</a></p>
<p>The Responsible Marketing Blog<br />
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		<title>By: Esther Schindler</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/the-important-people-myth-debunked/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther Schindler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not famous (at least not in my own mind) but that hasn&#039;t kept me from expressing an opinion, now and again. I&#039;ve certainly talked often enough with people who are well known.

I used to be among the people who were intimidated by famous people. I got over it.... the day in the late 80s that Noel Paul Stookey (who I was too shy to approach) came up to my husband and me and said, &quot;Oh! Everybody&#039;s been telling me I should talk with you guys.&quot; To him, *we* were the famous people, because we knew more about computers than he did. We ended up as tech support for his BBS. 

Looking back at how I felt back then, I think it&#039;s less the belief that the celebrity is too busy to respond to you than it is a mark of one&#039;s own feelings of (relative) insignificance. You might say, &quot;Oh, they&#039;d never answer ME,&quot; but what you mean is, &quot;I&#039;m not important enough to respond to&quot; or &quot;I&#039;m sure my ideas aren&#039;t interesting enough to appeal to this individual.&quot;

Maybe that&#039;s true. But if you don&#039;t try, you&#039;ll never know.

In point of fact, most people do like (non-attack) input, even if they don&#039;t have time to respond. I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s possible to say &quot;Thank you&quot; too often, for example.  That was another lesson I learned from Noel. He once visited us, after we moved to Arizona, and we took him to a local restaurant. Two fans approached him, just to say, &quot;Thank you for writing all that wonderful music.&quot; Noel was amazingly gracious, despite his meal being interrupted. &quot;It&#039;s a special moment for them,&quot; he explained. &quot;Even if it&#039;s &#039;just another fan&#039; to me.&quot; He treated every Thank You as though it was the first he had received. (Just one reason that I think Noel is such a great person. And oh yeah. Peter Paul &amp; Mary have good music, too.)

Most celebrities, I think, web or otherwise, have similar viewpoints. You rarely get to the top because you&#039;re a jerk. You get to the top in any field because you&#039;re a nice person *and* you&#039;re brilliant. _Usually_; there are always exceptions. But most celebrities stay as accessible as they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not famous (at least not in my own mind) but that hasn&#8217;t kept me from expressing an opinion, now and again. I&#8217;ve certainly talked often enough with people who are well known.</p>
<p>I used to be among the people who were intimidated by famous people. I got over it&#8230;. the day in the late 80s that Noel Paul Stookey (who I was too shy to approach) came up to my husband and me and said, &#8220;Oh! Everybody&#8217;s been telling me I should talk with you guys.&#8221; To him, *we* were the famous people, because we knew more about computers than he did. We ended up as tech support for his BBS. </p>
<p>Looking back at how I felt back then, I think it&#8217;s less the belief that the celebrity is too busy to respond to you than it is a mark of one&#8217;s own feelings of (relative) insignificance. You might say, &#8220;Oh, they&#8217;d never answer ME,&#8221; but what you mean is, &#8220;I&#8217;m not important enough to respond to&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m sure my ideas aren&#8217;t interesting enough to appeal to this individual.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s true. But if you don&#8217;t try, you&#8217;ll never know.</p>
<p>In point of fact, most people do like (non-attack) input, even if they don&#8217;t have time to respond. I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s possible to say &#8220;Thank you&#8221; too often, for example.  That was another lesson I learned from Noel. He once visited us, after we moved to Arizona, and we took him to a local restaurant. Two fans approached him, just to say, &#8220;Thank you for writing all that wonderful music.&#8221; Noel was amazingly gracious, despite his meal being interrupted. &#8220;It&#8217;s a special moment for them,&#8221; he explained. &#8220;Even if it&#8217;s &#8216;just another fan&#8217; to me.&#8221; He treated every Thank You as though it was the first he had received. (Just one reason that I think Noel is such a great person. And oh yeah. Peter Paul &amp; Mary have good music, too.)</p>
<p>Most celebrities, I think, web or otherwise, have similar viewpoints. You rarely get to the top because you&#8217;re a jerk. You get to the top in any field because you&#8217;re a nice person *and* you&#8217;re brilliant. _Usually_; there are always exceptions. But most celebrities stay as accessible as they can.</p>
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		<title>By: suzemuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>suzemuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was working in television I met a lot of famous people - actors, politicians, authors, musicians, and have even become friends with one famous Canadian. I&#039;m not a name dropper and it&#039;s not important who she is. But I can tell you, that most of the time people of profile really only want to be treated like regular people. They want to sit and have a normal conversation about normal stuff. Famous people are the same as non-famous people, it&#039;s just that their life has been public. And in fact what makes celebrities interesting to me is not why they are famous, but the remarkable experiences and opportunities they get to have in their lives because of their public image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was working in television I met a lot of famous people &#8211; actors, politicians, authors, musicians, and have even become friends with one famous Canadian. I&#8217;m not a name dropper and it&#8217;s not important who she is. But I can tell you, that most of the time people of profile really only want to be treated like regular people. They want to sit and have a normal conversation about normal stuff. Famous people are the same as non-famous people, it&#8217;s just that their life has been public. And in fact what makes celebrities interesting to me is not why they are famous, but the remarkable experiences and opportunities they get to have in their lives because of their public image.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hibbler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Hibbler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, Alex. I&#039;m not an important person but play one on TV. :) Having managed tours and careers for a rock star or three as well as worked closely with a few important authors, it seems to me that it&#039;s sometimes just a question of available time in the day. When I managed Glenn Hughes from Deep Purple, he would sit and sign autographs for hours if the fans were there. He enjoyed the interaction. But sometimes there&#039;s only half an hour or an hour available before having to catch a flight, etc. And that would leave some people who waited in line but didn&#039;t get an autograph upset. What can you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Alex. I&#8217;m not an important person but play one on TV. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Having managed tours and careers for a rock star or three as well as worked closely with a few important authors, it seems to me that it&#8217;s sometimes just a question of available time in the day. When I managed Glenn Hughes from Deep Purple, he would sit and sign autographs for hours if the fans were there. He enjoyed the interaction. But sometimes there&#8217;s only half an hour or an hour available before having to catch a flight, etc. And that would leave some people who waited in line but didn&#8217;t get an autograph upset. What can you do?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Frances I suppose we could talk about ego-driven fame and just fame. Indeed it depends on the person, but in my experience even ego-driven famous persons can answer you if they think it&#039;s interesting. 

Again, if you don&#039;t try it you won&#039;t know if they&#039;ll answer.

And just as a side note. I don&#039;t encourage people mass mailing everyone around. Personally I only email if I know or have a feeling that the person I&#039;m mailing might be interested in what I have to say.

Being said that I want to apologize to everybody I mailed with this post and felt it was useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frances I suppose we could talk about ego-driven fame and just fame. Indeed it depends on the person, but in my experience even ego-driven famous persons can answer you if they think it&#8217;s interesting. </p>
<p>Again, if you don&#8217;t try it you won&#8217;t know if they&#8217;ll answer.</p>
<p>And just as a side note. I don&#8217;t encourage people mass mailing everyone around. Personally I only email if I know or have a feeling that the person I&#8217;m mailing might be interested in what I have to say.</p>
<p>Being said that I want to apologize to everybody I mailed with this post and felt it was useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Harald that&#039;s exactly what I always say :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harald that&#8217;s exactly what I always say <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jo you don&#039;t? Personally I always try to research who is the one behind that email and try to answer if it&#039;s interesting. 

Again, if you have to deal with 1000+ emails on a daily basis you can&#039;t do that. As Seth would say, you only attend the emails that look like a purple cow ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jo you don&#8217;t? Personally I always try to research who is the one behind that email and try to answer if it&#8217;s interesting. </p>
<p>Again, if you have to deal with 1000+ emails on a daily basis you can&#8217;t do that. As Seth would say, you only attend the emails that look like a purple cow <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/the-important-people-myth-debunked/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mbites I suppose that shutting down is necessary most of the time if you want to keep a somehow normal life, nevertheless I think the key is what #12 (Mary-Lynn) stressed. If you go and ask interesting questions people normally answer you back.

The mysterious halo famous people have it&#039;s because of the rest of the world promoting it, not because of them (generally speaking).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mbites I suppose that shutting down is necessary most of the time if you want to keep a somehow normal life, nevertheless I think the key is what #12 (Mary-Lynn) stressed. If you go and ask interesting questions people normally answer you back.</p>
<p>The mysterious halo famous people have it&#8217;s because of the rest of the world promoting it, not because of them (generally speaking).</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barrera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Barrera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, first of all thanks a lot to everybody that left a comment and took the time to read the post. I was expecting some comments but not as many hehe

There are some great tips in some comments. 

@Dave&#039;s comment is quite insightful, I never though about it before. When you have a public face or are very widely known it&#039;s indeed a problem to answer to emails you don&#039;t know where they come from (I indeed feel honor that you did stopped by and left a comment. I greatly appreciate it).

I suppose it&#039;s a matter of trust. It gets to a point you just have to trust the other person into not trashing you. It&#039;s like what Ricardo Semler once said: I prefer to get robbed by a 2% of my employees that to treat the 98% of them like thiefs. 

Indeed when the trashing happens with a high rate, then you&#039;ve got a problem with very difficult solution :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, first of all thanks a lot to everybody that left a comment and took the time to read the post. I was expecting some comments but not as many hehe</p>
<p>There are some great tips in some comments. </p>
<p>@Dave&#8217;s comment is quite insightful, I never though about it before. When you have a public face or are very widely known it&#8217;s indeed a problem to answer to emails you don&#8217;t know where they come from (I indeed feel honor that you did stopped by and left a comment. I greatly appreciate it).</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s a matter of trust. It gets to a point you just have to trust the other person into not trashing you. It&#8217;s like what Ricardo Semler once said: I prefer to get robbed by a 2% of my employees that to treat the 98% of them like thiefs. </p>
<p>Indeed when the trashing happens with a high rate, then you&#8217;ve got a problem with very difficult solution <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to #12 (Mary-Lynn):

She brings up yet another reason to have a conversation with a successful individual: Ask them questions! I couldn&#039;t agree more.

I produce a podcast of conversations with a variety of interesting people in entertainment, business, technology, etc. Craig Newmark, Kevin Rose, Dr. David Farber, Sean Cory and others have all made appearances simply because I wanted to learn about them and share their conversation with the world.

Again, it&#039;s all about the approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to #12 (Mary-Lynn):</p>
<p>She brings up yet another reason to have a conversation with a successful individual: Ask them questions! I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>I produce a podcast of conversations with a variety of interesting people in entertainment, business, technology, etc. Craig Newmark, Kevin Rose, Dr. David Farber, Sean Cory and others have all made appearances simply because I wanted to learn about them and share their conversation with the world.</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s all about the approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to have stumbled upon this. I agree with many points about how average, everyday citizens respond to &quot;celebrities&quot; and people covered in the media.

In my experience, many famous and wealthy people are open to conversation if you approach them in the right way. I&#039;ve managed to correspond with Bill Gates (Microsoft), J.B. Hunt (J.B. Hunt Transport), Donald Schneider (Schneider National) and a host of other CEOs and personalities representing dozens of industries.

Many people aren&#039;t aware of this, simply because I don&#039;t talk about it, however, I approached these people because I hand-picked them as role models and I was determined to learn from them (and I did).

After more than 15 years of doing this stuff, I&#039;ve now realized the value in my experiences and I will soon help others realize the same.

If there&#039;s any advice I could offer to anyone with regard to meet a celebrity, CEO, etc., it would be this: They too are human. They&#039;re not God. They dress, eat and talk the same. Approach them as a human being and you&#039;ll be surprised by their response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to have stumbled upon this. I agree with many points about how average, everyday citizens respond to &#8220;celebrities&#8221; and people covered in the media.</p>
<p>In my experience, many famous and wealthy people are open to conversation if you approach them in the right way. I&#8217;ve managed to correspond with Bill Gates (Microsoft), J.B. Hunt (J.B. Hunt Transport), Donald Schneider (Schneider National) and a host of other CEOs and personalities representing dozens of industries.</p>
<p>Many people aren&#8217;t aware of this, simply because I don&#8217;t talk about it, however, I approached these people because I hand-picked them as role models and I was determined to learn from them (and I did).</p>
<p>After more than 15 years of doing this stuff, I&#8217;ve now realized the value in my experiences and I will soon help others realize the same.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s any advice I could offer to anyone with regard to meet a celebrity, CEO, etc., it would be this: They too are human. They&#8217;re not God. They dress, eat and talk the same. Approach them as a human being and you&#8217;ll be surprised by their response.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigg Success</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigg Success</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Mary-Lynn, co-host of The Bigg Success Show. I&#039;ve proposed many &quot;interview requests&quot; for celebrities during my years in radio. The bottom line is this: if you are asking questions they are interested in answering, you can get them to respond. Do some homework. Find a good spin. People, famous or not, love to answer an interesting question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Mary-Lynn, co-host of The Bigg Success Show. I&#8217;ve proposed many &#8220;interview requests&#8221; for celebrities during my years in radio. The bottom line is this: if you are asking questions they are interested in answering, you can get them to respond. Do some homework. Find a good spin. People, famous or not, love to answer an interesting question!</p>
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		<title>By: Madalin Matica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madalin Matica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do reply to all my emails but I do get frustrated if I don&#039;t get a reply to my emails. I&#039;m not famous but ..I&#039;m on my way to become :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do reply to all my emails but I do get frustrated if I don&#8217;t get a reply to my emails. I&#8217;m not famous but ..I&#8217;m on my way to become <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Frances Flynn Thorsen</title>
		<link>http://alwaysnewmistakes.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/the-important-people-myth-debunked/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances Flynn Thorsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is as much about the person or notoriety as much as it is about the thoughts (s)he espouses and embraces that is the trigger for a contact. Fame is often much about ego.</description>
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